how wow grade how the obama administration handled in an extraordinarily unique crisis four years ago? >> look, we got a rule at the university which is we never let professors grade their own papers because they're not likely to be objective. but i think -- >> let me ask -- why did you get -- >> i think the right thing -- i think basically the right things were done. the evidence that the right things are done comes from the way the united states looking compared to four years ago versus the way europe looks, versus the way japan looks. the evidence comes from looking at the fact that if you looked at the fall of 2008 on every important indicator, the stock market, jobs, industrial production, global trade, whatever you choose, it was worse than 1929. and if you look at what's happened, it's not where we'd like it to be but this is nothing like 1929 to 1933 so i think you got to give a high grade, and it's because the president made the right basic diagnosis. the president said at the first meeting we had with him after he listened to a bunch of this stuff. he said, look, the right w